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  Annual Report

  by St George of England in

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  the latest report is now available for download on our favourite website!.

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  Touchofgrey

  Slimboyfat

  Do you know what the attendance was at the assembly at the Glasgow hydro, its been a few years since I was last there .

  Thanks
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  Threat of Deregistration in the Czech Republic

  by Vanderhoven7 in

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  2. bible

  english translation of czech branch letter to congregations concerning the government looking to deregisterjw as a religion there.. .

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  Touchofgrey

  Yet they fail to recognize the human rights of those who want to leave or change their religion or to have no religion and to openly practice their beliefs in public without fear of being disfellowshiped and shunned by their families and friends.
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  Annual Report

  by St George of England in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the latest report is now available for download on our favourite website!.

  george.

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  Touchofgrey

  I heard from someone that people are still using zoom for meetings, is it now easier for pimo's with just ticking a box for ministry etc ,so they can keep contact with family and friends So do people feel theirs no need leave ?
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  The CHRISTIANITY gravy-train mob......

  by BoogerMan in

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  2. friends

  .......and one or two other lucrative individuals!

  https://www.heraldweekly.com/meet-the-wealthiest-religious-leaders-in-the-world/61?xcmg=1&_d=d.

  happy to be fleecing the sheep who leave the folds of the multi-billion dollar "established" empires - like wtbts..

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  Touchofgrey

  Shocking when jesus only had the clothes on his back and encouraged a simple life and when a rich man asked him how to get everlasting life jesus told him to sell his belongings and give to the poor.
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  Baptism on Fire

  by peacefulpete in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  going through justin martyr's dialogue with trypho yesterday, i found a variation on the baptism scene :.

  88. and let this be a proof to you, namely, what i told you was done by the magi from arabia, who as soon as the child was born came to worship him, for even at his birth he was in possession of his power; and as he grew up like all other men, by using the fitting means, he assigned its own [requirements] to each development, and was sustained by all kinds of nourishment, and waited for thirty years, more or less, until john appeared before him as the herald of his approach, and preceded him in the way of baptism, as i have already shown.

  and then, when jesus had gone to the river jordan, where john was baptizing, and when he had stepped into the water, a fire was kindled in the jordan; and when he came out of the water, the holy ghost lighted on him like a dove, [as] the apostles of this very christ of ours wrote.

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  Touchofgrey

  Thanks for the link ,very interesting and leolaia research much appreciated and well explained.

  Young Jesus being a little snot.
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  Baptism on Fire

  by peacefulpete in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  going through justin martyr's dialogue with trypho yesterday, i found a variation on the baptism scene :.

  88. and let this be a proof to you, namely, what i told you was done by the magi from arabia, who as soon as the child was born came to worship him, for even at his birth he was in possession of his power; and as he grew up like all other men, by using the fitting means, he assigned its own [requirements] to each development, and was sustained by all kinds of nourishment, and waited for thirty years, more or less, until john appeared before him as the herald of his approach, and preceded him in the way of baptism, as i have already shown.

  and then, when jesus had gone to the river jordan, where john was baptizing, and when he had stepped into the water, a fire was kindled in the jordan; and when he came out of the water, the holy ghost lighted on him like a dove, [as] the apostles of this very christ of ours wrote.

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  Touchofgrey

  Thanks again peacefulpete

  Does this have any connection to the classical elements of earth air fire and water.

  Greek philosophy and Astrology also used these four elements, and like many other things have these been adopted and grafted into religious beliefs.
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  My story of becoming a circuit overseer after Kin Suen visited our congregation.

  by ExCircuitOverseer in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  here is my story of becoming a missionary after having kin suen (pronounced “shin”) as my circuit overseer.

  my father wanted me to go to college, but since he wasn’t a witness, i knew he just didn’t understand how close we were to the end.

  i had actually become a circuit overseer!

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  Touchofgrey

  Glad you and your family are free ,took me time to adjust and recover from a high control group and being lied too for most of our lives.
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  JW vs. Christian Message To the World - The Kingdom of God, or Reconciliation with God?

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
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  after stuydying jw's for over half a century, i haved concluded the following: .

  old light / new light is a primary doctrine of jehovah’s witneses.

  when they abandon on old prophecy or change a doctrine, they characterize this as “old light”.

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  Touchofgrey

  Seabreeze

  Any questions, comments, disagreements or observations?

  You did ask .

  They can't both be right, but they both can be wrong.
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  JW vs. Christian Message To the World - The Kingdom of God, or Reconciliation with God?

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  after stuydying jw's for over half a century, i haved concluded the following: .

  old light / new light is a primary doctrine of jehovah’s witneses.

  when they abandon on old prophecy or change a doctrine, they characterize this as “old light”.

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  Touchofgrey

  The average fundamentalist Christian is so indoctrinated and psychologically invested in the literal interpretation of the bible that they can't see the deception that is so obvious to outsiders.

  Earth created in 6 days.

  Adam and eve story some 6000 years ago.

  Worldwide flood story never happened.

  Exodus from Egypt never happened

  No independently verified evidence of a miracle worker called jesus.
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  The Watchtower—Study Edition  |  January 2025 Husbands, Honor Your Wife

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  14 a husband who physically or verbally abuses his wife needs to take additional steps to repair his relationship with jehovah and with his wife.

  what are these steps?

  first, he recognizes that he has a serious problem.

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  Touchofgrey

  Domestic violence is a criminal offence in the uk and has been for many years, physiological manipulation and coercive control became a criminal offence in 2019 .

  When I told the elders that I had been in contact with a domestic abuse agency for men they were shocked and disgusted because I had informed a worldly organisation and told them that I was recommend strongly to leave after the first call.

  So any victim should be encouraged by the watchtower and the elders to contact the police and a domestic abuse agency ,but off course they won't do that, prayer and bible study can fix it, you can't bring reproach on jehovah's name and the organisation.

  Perpetrators of domestic abuse DO NOT change.

  Male and female victims are abused in equal numbers, the issue has been that many men didn't or wouldn't admit that they were victims.

  Yes in articles such as these it should read HE /SHE many domestic abuse agency now do this on information posters etc .